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21-mar-2015 20:57
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De momento lo pongo por aqui hasta que se cree la marca Alpine...upps  En el salón de Ginebra, Bruno Ancelin, Vicepresidente de Renault ha comentado que Alpine será una submarca de Renault, con modelos deportivos. Pero no lo dice tal cual, lo dice porque una marca no se puede crear con un solo modelo, sino que deberia haber varios mas (en su momento se comentaba 3) Habla de marcas deportivas premium como Audi y Porsche, y para llegar a ese nivel esperan contar con la experiencia del grupo Renault-Nissan y de la alianza con Mercedes El primero en salir será el deportivo de motor central heredero del A110, con nombre interno AS1. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault...rts-car-family |
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29-mar-2015 12:38
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Una marca como Alpine, que aunque tiene una historia, lleva un siglo sin reaparecer, con lo que haer solo deportivos no se si seria bueno, ya que serian muy bajas ventas, poca rentabilidad, una marca que perderia constantemente dinero, cosa que a Renault, que va mejorando poco a poco, no le gustaria ver. De ahi que, haciendo un modelo mas comercial, si tenga mas facilidad para vender. Y si consigue ser pariente de Mercedes, con mas facilidad... Infiniti es de Nissan, no de Renault, por mucho que la francesa tenga casi la mitad de acciones de Nissan. De ahi que Renault se quiera dividir en varias submarcas: Dacia, Renault, Alpine y Initial Paris. Si funciona claro, porque sabemos que Dacia y Renault están funcionando, pero las otras 2 no han salido todavia, tiene que mejorar su prestigio para poder avanzar a lo que quiere |
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29-mar-2015 20:16
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Renault registra el nombre Renault Tennessee Se especula con que podria volver a EE.UU., pudiendo ser el Alpine el primer producto que se vendiese alli, pero no encajaria con la producción del modelo en EE.UU. puesto que se fabricará en Dieppe http://www.leftlanenews.com/renault-...ssee-name.html |
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01-abr-2015 01:24
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http://www.autoblog.com/2015/03/30/r...sovers-report/ Veremos captur y kadjar RS? |
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01-abr-2015 01:31
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 seguramente si sale algo sean versiones GT
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11-may-2015 15:50
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Entrevista, en inglés, al vicepresidente de planificación de producto Bruno Ancelin What is Renault doing to improve its pricing in Europe? The best way to improve pricing and brand awareness is by simply putting good products on the market. More than 10 years ago, we had a lot of problems with reliability and quality. Now I think that our quality level is one of the best in the market. If you compare the equipment that we offer and the added value customers can find in our cars, our level of pricing is intelligent. Unlike some competitors that are losing money in the European market, we are not offering discounts. What are you doing to close the pricing gap with Volkswagen? We want to catch up with them, but it’s impossible without offering more features and better quality with a more premium look, which is what we are trying to do with the new Espace and the new midsize sedan. How will the new Megane, your Volkswagen Golf rival, be positioned compared with the current car? We must establish design consistency with the predecessor because we have learned that introducing a breakthrough in design is not good for the residual value of the car. We want the new Megane to maintain an element of continuity with its predecessor because it is a core model, like the Golf is for VW. The Kadjar will compete against the Qashqai, your partner Nissan’s best-selling vehicle in Europe. Won’t that cause problems? You have two brands and two different positions in the market. The content of the two cars also is very different, even though they share the same platform. There is absolutely no problem. The new Twingo minicar was switched to rear-wheel drive. What has been the response? The Twingo represented an opportunity to design a shorter car with a very good turning radius and with a better loading capacity than the previous-generation car. There is a lot of space inside the car and its design is original, which was not the case with the previous-generation Twingo. We have been able to better compete against specific models and in certain markets especially in Italy. And you can guess what that model is in Italy. Renault set ambitious sales goals in Europe for its electric cars that have not been met. How are you reacting to the weaker-than-expected demand? We are learning. We already have improved the performance of the Zoe’s battery cell and powertrain. We can apply this expertise to the development of plug-in hybrids. When you develop components for an EV, you can develop many of the same the components for plug-ins. Renault and Nissan say most of their EV customers are very satisfied. Nissan says that more than 90 percent of Leaf customers would purchase another Leaf. Why is this the case? The Zoe ranks No. 1 in the French market for customer satisfaction. This shows that once people drive and own an EV, they have a positive reaction. I was not a big fan of EVs at first, but once you try one you appreciate many things such as the acceleration and the extra room inside because it does not have a large combustion engine. The big problem is the driving range. But eventually, the Zoe will reach 400km. It will be a step-by-step improvement. There will be no miracle breakthrough. http://europe.autonews.com/article/2...-better-lineup |
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11-may-2015 15:51
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 EL Captur iria con 200 o 220cv y el Kadjar con alrededor de 300cv, vamos, como iran sus hermanos Clio y Megane Si es que salen SUVs asi, que lo dudo, aunque el Captur podria tener mas posibilidades |
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15-jun-2015 14:15
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Entrevista a Bernard Ollivier, jefe de Alpine, en la presentación del Celebration concept Does this confirm that a production car is on the way now? “Yes and no. Yes because it’s a sign that we are beginning to get the concept, but it’s not finished. Our objective through Alpine Celebration is to assess. It is very difficult for us - we have to relaunch a brand. This is very rare on the market. And it is very difficult to be sure what kind of expectations customers will have, and at the end what kind of profitability we will have. "For instance, you have seen the Alpine Celebration in the village [where it is on display to the public]. If I change the logo and I put Renaultsport, or Porsche, or Lotus. Is there a difference of assessment by people? If they are interested. It is very important for us. What kind of people? Perhaps if I put Porsche it’s not the same customer than if it is Alpine or Renault Sport. So it’s quite a survey. "We think… we have our idea. Our objective is to validate our idea or to change. My opinion is that the potential customers are very modern so they are waiting for a modern car, but of course if you buy an Alpine, you are waiting for a real Alpine. "A real Alpine means the DNA of Alpine, which is light, fast and fun to drive. So our proposition with Alpine Celebration is that we think a new Alpine should be - firstly, a modern car, with a modern design and modern technology. Secondly - a car which also shows the heritage." It’s a very difficult balance then? "The design of the car is very, very important. Probably 80% of the decision to buy a car is down to the design. So it’s very, very crucial. "But after that, there are other points, the positioning of the car, performance, comfort and of course all the economic topics with the profitability." Is there a timeframe to launch the car? "We would prefer to be sure than to be quick. But also this is not only about France. France is quite a small market. Of course, I think about Germany, the UK, Japan etc. And this car will go to Goodwood in the UK. "I am very interested because I know British people love cars. The design is quite close, it is not an Italian design. It will be very interesting for us to measure the feedback from Goodwood." So you are still deciding on your markets, as well as the technology of the car? "No. For me there are some topics that are not to be negotiated, because it is in the DNA. And the DNA of Alpine is not negotiable. The ratio of lightweight vs power is not negotiable, it’s the DNA." Has developing the road car been a challenge? "My challenge is the market has not waited for us. All the places are taken by carmakers and so we have to take our place. For that we need to be very strong on our uniqueness. If we copy Lotus, or Porsche, why will we succeed? "It’s possible we will succeed because our car will be different. An Alpine has to be different to a Lotus." What can you tell us about the final product? "If you see our car, you can see this car will be useable daily. The car will be elegant, with the French idea of elegance. Simple, fluid, and very uncomplicated. It will be special. So we think these topics are not in the market today. So we have our place. "There must already be quite a bit of confidence that there is a market for Alpine. What gives you that? "I am confident we will be able to find the good solution. But today we have not finished solving the remaining issues. For instance, the profitability hot topic. If the profitability is low it means we are not sure on the long-term future. It is very important for me and for the Renault Group to build something for the long-term." What customers are you aiming for with Alpine? "The customers for Alpine cars won’t be the same as for Renault. For instance, even the customer for Renault Sport is probably young, not very rich, and he is buying a car which is useable for all the things he has to do. "For Alpine, it’s not that. It is very passionate people, quite rich, probably it’s the third or fourth car for them. It’s a car only for pleasure for the weekend, not to drive a lot, only for pleasure. Is this customer going to go to a Renault dealer to buy an Alpine? I’m not sure, because you want to get a very, very dedicated service." Is this concept close to the final product? "We will modify this concept using feedback from today, tomorrow and Goodwood. We will modify, we will look for a good balance. I’m not sure this is for next year – the timing is dependant on our ability to make the right car." http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...unique-succeed |
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04-ago-2015 23:33
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Hace un tiempo se hablaba del estudio de que los R.S. de Renault se hibridasen. Pues siguen estudiandolo, según una entrevista a Patrice Ratti para autocar “I like to (en cuanto a un modelo totalmente electrico). Today the problem of a fully electric sports car is that you need a lot of batteries, but we’re also working on hybrid for sports cars." “Hybridisation could help because of the CO2 [savings]. What’s also great with electric motors is the acceleration. We’re working on it, but we cannot go too expensive with technology.” http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/in...-hot-road-cars |
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01-oct-2015 12:25
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Renault y Dongfeng podrucirán un electrico en China Será un modelo basado en el Fluence Z.E.. Se venderá a partir de 2017 con una marca local para China Dongfeng and Renault agree to produce electric vehicles in China On the occasion of the visit of ZHU Yangfeng, Chairman of Dongfeng Group, at the Renault R&D center, Dongfeng Renault Automotive Company (DRAC) announces the production of its first electric vehicle in China. As part of the Joint Venture between Dongfeng and Renault, DRAC will produce an electric vehicle that is based on the Fluence Z.E. The electric car will be produced at the Wuhan plant in 2017 and will be commercialized under a local Dongfeng brand for the Chinese market only. The agreement is part of the will of both the Renault Group and the Dongfeng Group to propose mobility solutions for sustainable development. Jacques Daniel, CEO of DRAC, confirmed: ‘’This EV agreement illustrates Renault’s engagement as partner of COP 21.’’ |
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04-nov-2015 15:07
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Entrevista de autoevolution a Jean Pascal Jocou, de Renault Sport. Está en inglés autoevolution: German performance divisions have seen their business booming over the last couple of years and this is why they are in a prolonged expansion process. Is Renault Sport planning something similar? Jean Pascal Jocou: We have already set ourselves a goal for such an expansion. Last year, we sold 37,000 cars and we want that to increase to 50,000 by the end of 2018. This includes both the RS models and the GT vehicles. [For the sake of comparison, we’ll mention AMG expected its 2014 sales to surpass 45,000 cars, a major leap from the 32,200 units sold back in 2013]. ae: The current Renault Sport line-up includes three layers: the hot RS, the warm GT and visual-only GT Line. Will this structure change? JPJ: Yes, it will. We will scale everything down to two lines, the RS and a new name for the current GT models. ae: What about the visually-sporty bits now included in the GT Line? Will these be available through a special parts and accessories catalogue like in the case of the BMW M Performance parts? JPJ: I cannot discuss that for now. ae: Let’s go outside Renault’s range. What has been the most recent project of this kind for you? JPJ: We have worked on the Smart Brabus. ae: Speaking of which, are you considering doing something for the Twingo? JPJ: Yes, of course. We will release a hotter Twingo, but it will not be an RS model. Just a sportier version of the car you can buy now. ae: Since we’re here for a Clio RS event, I want to know if a customer interested in the Clio Trophy RS 220 gearbox software, which brings significantly faster changes, could have a Renault dealer install this on the standard Clio RS 200 EDC. JPJ: I can tell you the Phase II [the mid-cycle facelift expected for next year] will see the RS 200 using the transmission software from the Trophy RS 220. ae: Now that Renault is expanding its crossover range, we want to know if you are considering such projects. JPJ: We are open to everything [an attitude completely different to other performance divisions - for instance, Porsche may build the Cayenne Turbo S, but will never put an RS badge on its SUV]. However, the car has to end up at the right price and there must be a market for it. ae: Switching to customer racing, we’ll mention the increasing interest for drifting. Most, if not all, performance divisions involved in customer motorsport have included going sideways in their programs. Are you interested in this, at least as far as the RWD R.S. 01 is concerned? JPJ: No, we only target the performance. Do you know the price of an R.S. 01? [given the $400k/EUR360k pricetag, he smiles] Buying an R.S. 01 to drift? I suppose some funny Japanese can do it, but honestly, it would be a shame [let’s hope Chris Harris doesn’t hear about this]. ae: Braking-based torque vectoring. Independent rear wheel braking with the purpose of more efficient cornering is relatively cheap to implement as a way of boosting performance, since the technology is already on the car. You don’t have this, but is it interesting for you? JPJ: This is not one of our priorities right now. But with the electronics moving so fast these days, we can integrate such features if the market moves towards it. Still, the customer base for this kind of systems is extremely limited. Also, you can see the Megane RS 275 Trophy-R’s brilliant Nurburgring performance without any electronic assistance. ae: Megane it is, then, namely the new GT. Nice move introducing rear-wheel steering on the Megane GT at Frankfurt just before Ferrari brought such a system on the F12tdf. Maranello only says they’ve developed the model-based control logic in-house [we expect the rest to come from ZF], but what about you? I know, for instance, that the rear-wheel steering on the Laguna comes from Aisin (the electronic control unit and the electric actuator). What about the new one? JPJ: The system is developed entirely by Renault. ae: Any important differences compared to the system on the Laguna? JPJ: There’s a five-year development difference between the two, so you will feel the difference. The system on the Megane GT will be different to that on the Espace and the Talisman. That’s because the hatch is the only one that uses a Renault Sport software. ae: Are hybrids or EVs a priority for Renault Sport? JPJ: We know the ecological pressure is on the rise, especially now with the Volkswagen story, all the manufacturers are looking to cope with the demands coming from the governments and the ecological lobby partners. Someday, it will happen. ae: Switching over to the R.S. 01, we know the main difference to the GT-R engine is the adoption of a dry-sump lubrication system, but what are the other changes you’ve made? JPJ: The intake and the exhaust are bespoke and, obviously, so is the ECU. ae: Let’s say a customer requires a street-legal version of the R.S. 01. JPJ: It will cost so much to modify the car in order to pass tests such as the one regarding emissions and pedestrian safety, that it would be almost impossible. We actually considered building a street-legal version at a certain point during the development process, but the car would’ve reached a price that would be difficult to justify when comparing the Renault badge to exotic carmakers. ae: The R.S. 01 is currently limited to its one-make racing series, what are your future plans? JPJ: Certain FIA regulations, such as the GT2 class, require racecars to be based on production vehicles, which is why we can’t enter such forms of motorsport. But you will see the R.S. 01 entering new forms of racing next year. Now we have 14 places, if we occupy two more, the grid will be full. All are sold out. But in January, you will see two cars in the 24H Dubai. Step by step, we will increase our presence [we expect the official to refer to more than just the R.S. 01 being downgraded to GT3 specification for the participation in the French Grand Touring racing series.] ae: Let’s talk Alpine. JPJ: I can only say you will have important news soon [perhaps Geneva 2016 in March?] ae: What about the crown jewel, F1? We know you’ve signed a letter of intent to take over the Lotus Formula One team, but conspiracy theories talk about how the booming environmental pressure will determine Renault to direct more of its budget towards this, a move that could affect the funds that go into the F1 program. JPJ: First of all, I want to explain that all the carmakers, obviously beside VW, bring their vehicles to the emission tests in various countries while being sure the cars are fitting. Sure, they are specially prepared for testing, as far as the current legislation allows, but there is no special software for rigging the tests. Every carmaker knows its car will pollute less during the test, but that’s thanks to measures such as skinnier and more inflated tires. So it’s not the same thing VW has done. The kind of supposition you mention may apply to Volkswagen. Everybody hopes the financial consequences of Dieselgate will not affect their rallying return, but we can’t know for now. For the record, Pascal used to serve Renault Sport in connection to rallying activities, so this was an interesting way of ending our conversation. It’s a shame we didn’t have some extra time to discuss what we call Ring Wolves, though. http://www.autoevolution.com/news/re...ng-101664.html |
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13-dic-2015 00:23
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Renault fabrica 25 millones de motores en Valladolid En concreto, la unidad 25m ha sido un 1.5 dci  http://www.motor.es/noticias/25-mill...201524754.html |
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13-dic-2015 00:46
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Y lo que le queda: añadir adblue, añadir KERS...no le quedan años todavia ni nada Veremos los millones aumentar. Y por el bien de la planta, que sigan muchos años, aunque la normativa cada vez será mas dura y veremos como puede desaparecer de ciertos modelos |
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13-dic-2015 02:00
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| Ya veremos en 2017. Es probable que desaparezca en Clio y Captur por el aumento de precio al añadir mas sistemas de depuración. Si ya hay una buena diferencia de precio con respecto al gasolina, imaginate dentro de 2 años con el adblue |
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13-dic-2015 14:53
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No creo que sea necesario hasta más adelante, aunque salga la Euro 6c y el nuevo sistema de homologación WLTC que pondrá las cosas más serias en 2017, hasta 2020 todos los coches homologarán ambos test, pero el que será jurídicamente vinculante, es el NEDC. Así que, realmente en 2017 no cambiará nada y el Clio y el Captur podrán terminar su vida comercial sin problemas.
Página 17 http://www.theicct.org/sites/default...U_20141029.pdf Por otro lado, si lo que dices sucede posiblemente será el fin del 1.5 dci, porque si no merece la pena en el Clio o Captur, para el resto de modelos tal vez sea más lógico utilizar una versión descafeinada del 1.6 dci como hace Mercedes.  Ponte en la situación: 0.9 tce 90cv por 12000 vs 1.5 dci 90cv por 16000. A igualdad de todo. No compensa ni haciendo 30.000 km al año Ahí radica el problema. No es que no se pueda hacer, sino que seria muy caro hacerlo y se revertiria en el precio del coche VAG tambien se está pensando en que en el futuro no haya diesel tampoco en utilitarios No, no seria el fin del 1.5, ya que con adblule y con KERS estaria sobre los 130cv (110 diesel, 20 electricos). Adivina quien seria el damnificado. Al principio no claro, o eso espero, pero mas adelante...Ten en cuenta que el 1.5 dci está bien rentabilizado y es barata su producción Ahora mismo, dependiendo de si modifican o no la 6c, habrán muchos cambios en los diesel y gasolina. Lo iremos viendo con el paso del tiempo |
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02-feb-2016 21:20
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Dongfeng Renault abre su 1ª fabrica en China El modelo a producir es el Kadjar, que se pondrá alli a la venta en marzo            http://www.carscoops.com/2016/02/don...-plant-in.html Nota de prensa, en inglés Dongfeng Renault opens first plant in china - On February 1, 2016, Carlos Ghosn, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Groupe Renault, and Zhu Yanfeng, Chairman of Dongfeng Group, opened the Dongfeng Renault Automotive Company (DRAC) plant in Wuhan, Hubei Province. - Just two years after the joint venture was formed, the first DRAC plant in China will start producing the Renault Kadjar, Renault’s latest SUV. - The Renault brand is taking on a new dimension in China with a plant which complies with the highest quality standards for vehicle production and a sales and marketing offensive in the fastest-growing segment. A GREENFIELD PLANT BUILT IN TWO YEARS The facility, located in Wuhan, in Hubei Province, is a greenfield plant built in just two years on the strength of a highly-skilled, multicultural team with our partners Dongfeng Group (DFG) and Nissan. The plant achieved ISO 9001 certification for quality in November 2015 and local content with its suppliers exceeds 80 percent. The facility includes a vehicle assembly plant, a powertrain plant and an R&D Centre to adapt our products to our customers’ requirements. It will have an initial production capacity of 150,000 vehicles per year which has the potential to be doubled to 300,000 vehicles. Carlos Ghosn commented during the opening ceremony: “Thanks to a talented, multicultural team, the Wuhan plant was built in record time to our highest quality standards. This is a milestone in our long-term partnership with Dongfeng Group, as well as for Renault’s growth. China is a core part of Renault’s strategic plan.” The Dongfeng Renault Automotive Company (DRAC) joint venture was formed on December 16, 2013, and work started on the plant in January 2014. One year later, the joint venture had around 1,000 employees. At end-2015, the workforce totalled 2,000 – a challenge in terms of recruitment and multicultural management.* THE KADJAR TO GO ON SALE IN MARCH The first vehicle to be manufactured at the plant is the Renault Kadjar, an SUV with racing genes. The car’s dynamic design and high-tech features meet the expectations of our customers in China. The car has been fitted with some different equipment compared to the Kadjar released in Europe in 2015, including a panoramic sunroof, 4Control and independent rear suspension for added comfort. The SUV segment accounts for 30% of the Chinese market and is the fastest-growing segment, increasing by 53% in 2015. The Renault Kadjar was unveiled at the 13th Guangzhou Motor Show on November 20, 2015. It will go on sale in China in March 2016. A DEALER NETWORK FOCUSED ON CUSTOMER SATISFACTION The Renault network comprises 125 dealerships in all the Chinese provinces. It complies with the Renault brand’s standards for customer satisfaction. In the Initial Quality Study released by JD Power in 2015, Renault was ranked second among mass-market brands in China. |
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12-feb-2016 15:13
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Lo de Europa, parece claro. El C State, será el Megane familiar.
Pero en el internacional, el Crossover segmendo D, será el "X-Trail" de Renault, por lo visto no parece que venga a Europa. El Pick-Up de 1 tonelada, ¿es un Nissan remarcado?. ¿El crossover del segmento B?. Y el C Sedan, digo yo que será el Megane 3 cuerpos que no vendrá aquí de momento, ¿no?. ¿O la diferencia entre Europa e Internacional, es en producción y no en mercado, que el Megane sedan o el crossover del segmento D se harán fuera de Europa pero se venderán aquí?. Por el internacional, el SUV B es lo que se habalaba como Grand Captur pero que no es un captur. El SUV D es el Koleos II, que en principio se decia que no vendria para Europa y ahora ya ni idea. En teoria iba a estar en aquellos mercados donde el Espace no esta, pero ahora no se como estará la cosa El C sedan si, es el Fluence II o como lo quieran llamar El Pick Up 1T si, es el hermano gemelo del Navara, puesto que el Duster Oroch ya se presentó. Ahora bien, no se si de todo lo que pone internacional llegará a Europa o no. Con esa separación parece que no, pero no me creo que no saquen, por ejemplo, un sedan C en Europa habiendo tanta diferencia entre el Megane y el Talisman |
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12-feb-2016 15:54
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Yo creo que los modelos europeos serán exclusivos para Europa, mientras que de los internacionales, algunos vendrán a Europa y otros no.
El "Grand Captur" no creo que venga, respecto al Alaskan tengo mis dudas. Pero el Koleos y el Megane Sedán yo creo que tienen muchas posibilidades de llegar aquí  En este mensaje se ven a los paises (mas o menos) a donde van dirigidos http://www.forocoches.com/foro/showt...969210&page=18 Parece que el Pick up no llegaria, pero a saber lo que tienen previsto |
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20-mar-2016 00:57
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Renault desarrollará un nuevo lenguaje de diseño a partir del salón de Paris 2016 Si ya se cerró la flor que empezó con el DeZir, para Paris llegará un nuevo concept car que abrirá una nueva etapa, empezando de nuevo con un deportivo. Será el primero de otra serie de concept con el lema "etapas de la vida", al estilo de lo que se hizo con los petalos anterios. El diseño frontal seguirá las matrices actuales y con el logo grande, pues les ha costado un tiempo encontrar una imagen de marca Noticias: http://europe.autonews.com/article/2...ge-with-sports http://www.leftlanenews.com/renault-...how-91288.html http://www.carscoops.com/2016/03/ren...ion-to-be.html |
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21-mar-2016 12:25
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Vamos, que mantendrán el esquema de rombo gigante y dos bigoteras cromadas sobre fondo negro para unir el logotipo con los faros. Es una buena forma de dar continuidad e "imagen de marca" cambiando por completo el resto del diseño.
Ahora, lo que es una incógnita es si el Clio volverá a ser la carta de presentación del nuevo lenguaje, o si llegará antes de la mano del restyling de algún modelo más reciente. Pensaba que el Clio saldría en 2019, pero me parece una fecha muy lejana como para presentar ahora el nuevo lenguaje de diseño. Aunque quizás lo adelantan al 2018, en cuyo caso si que me encajarían las fechas. Me intriga el cambio que puedan hacer. La actual gama ha dado en el clavo estéticamente hablando, no hay más que ver el éxito que está teniendo. Línea de las ventanillas ascendente, poca superficie acristalada, hombros marcados, faros agresivos, zona baja de las puertas marcada, curvas orgánicas... ¿Cambiarán todo eso, que son las claves del éxito y la belleza de la actual gama, o lo evolucionarán? ¿Dejará desfasados a los últimos modelos, como el Megane o el Talisman, al igual que pasó con sus antecesores? Quizás es una evolución de la estética de estos últimos, con las "lágrimas" y los pilotos alargados. Yo creo que mas que un nuevo lenguaje de diseño, creo que aprovecharán para evolucionar el que tienen ahora y que está teniendo exito. Y me pareceria lo mas correcto, porque asi mantienen la linea actual, pero le dan mas fuerza Teniendo en cuenta que el Clio todavia no ha visto el phII, que será en Paris (no me la juego, pero es que ya hemos visto los faros ), calcula 3 años mas, mas o menosAunque...viendo que el Micra va a pasar a ser fabricado junto con el Clio, y que en teoria hay plataforma CMF B para los 2, pues podrian adelantarlo, pero viendo el exito que tiene actualmente, no se yo
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29-mar-2016 23:29
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¿Asociación PSA-Renault? Pero no para hacer vehiculos conjuntos, sino comprar piezas. Parece ser que compran muchos componentes a las mismas empresas, como escapes, depositos, etc, asi que podrian juntarse y hacer compras conjuntas para ahorrar en gastos Si se aprobase, en junio, habria que buscar un centro de almacenamiento para ambos grupos http://www.planeterenault.com/30-all...rapprochement/ |
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14-abr-2016 18:30
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http://www.forocoches.com/foro/showt...#post218562391 Aqui está, como añadido al phase II del Zoe, que igual adquiere alguna de sus caracteristicas... |
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14-abr-2016 18:53
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De todas maneras, ya digo, creo que se habia tratado, y el Espace "autonomo" se habia visto
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14-abr-2016 19:35
#448
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He editado, no son 25m de 1.5, sino 25m de motores
Ponte en la situación: 0.9 tce 90cv por 12000 vs 1.5 dci 90cv por 16000. A igualdad de todo. No compensa ni haciendo 30.000 km al año Ahí radica el problema. No es que no se pueda hacer, sino que seria muy caro hacerlo y se revertiria en el precio del coche VAG tambien se está pensando en que en el futuro no haya diesel tampoco en utilitarios No, no seria el fin del 1.5, ya que con adblule y con KERS estaria sobre los 130cv (110 diesel, 20 electricos). Adivina quien seria el damnificado. Al principio no claro, o eso espero, pero mas adelante...Ten en cuenta que el 1.5 dci está bien rentabilizado y es barata su producción Ahora mismo, dependiendo de si modifican o no la 6c, habrán muchos cambios en los diesel y gasolina. Lo iremos viendo con el paso del tiempo ¿Y no estás siendo un poco exagerado? El 208 con AdBlue cuesta 750 euros más que el homónimo gasolina (1.6 BlueHDi 100 vs 1.2 THP110), no veo por qué cuando Renault incorpore la urea deba irse a 4000 la diferencia. |
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14-abr-2016 19:42
#449
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A igualdad de acabado, equipamiento y demás tan poca diferencia entre el BlueHDi y el THP110? Claro que supongo que estarás contando con que el precio del diesel está rebajado porque está exento del pago, y supongo que el THP no, aunque sea bajo . Si se le quita ahi podria subir el precio
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