Nuevo jimny en ciernes, se estira la vida de los ejes rigidos con un nuevo modelo
Tema Cerrado
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 17:28
#1321
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Lo siento puretas, pero ese LSD que anuncian no es nada mecánico. Brake LSD Traction Control If two wheels diagonal from each other lose grip while you’re travelling over slippery surfaces, this feature is designed to automatically brake the slipping wheels and redistribute torque to the other two wheels, allowing the Jimny to make its escape.  http://www.globalsuzuki.com/automobi...mny/index.html Además se aprecia en los vídeos que son "microfrenadas" y no una presión constante de unotipo mecánico. |
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AUTT socio nº 2078
05-jul-2018 17:28
#1322
| Yo creo que no lleva LSD (autoblocante). En el vídeo se ve que hasta pierde tracción delante y frena rueda para pasar potencia a otras. Dudo que lleve autoblocante delantero. Igual se refiere a que el control de tracción hace las veces de LSD. |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 17:33
#1323
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Lo siento puretas, pero ese LSD que anuncian no es nada mecánico.
Brake LSD Traction Control If two wheels diagonal from each other lose grip while you’re travelling over slippery surfaces, this feature is designed to automatically brake the slipping wheels and redistribute torque to the other two wheels, allowing the Jimny to make its escape. http://www.globalsuzuki.com/automobi...mny/index.html Además se aprecia en los vídeos que son "microfrenadas" y no una presión constante de unotipo mecánico. se apoya en el control de traccion frenando la rueda... no es mecanico. bueno, lo importante es salir de lo marron antes de que la parienta se ponga mas nerviosa 
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ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 17:36
#1324
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NOTA DE PRENSA INGLESA, por si hubiese alguien realmente interesado en leerla. Suzuki Jimny – The one-and-only, small, lightweight 4WD vehicle Ever since the first Jimny made its debut in April 1970, it has been a masterpiece of Suzuki’s 4WD technology. It is the one and only authentic off-roader that is small and lightweight, but still retains the off-road performance desired by professionals. Two decades have passed since the third generation model model made its debut in 1998, the Jimny has now evolved to its fourth generation in its nearly 50 years of history. The all-new Jimny now has even more functionality and practicality on both its appearance and performance while still fully embodying the spirit of its much-loved predecessors and its core concept of being the “one-and-only, small, lightweight 4WD vehicle “. The all-new Jimny crafts together simplicity, functional beauty and 4WD technology that leave both off-road professionals and city-users wanting more. All-new Jimny highlights
The beauty of simplicity and off-road functionality are both realised with its robust exterior. Its strong square body expresses its off-road ability and robustness, as well as contribute to the driver’s situational awareness. The more upright A-pillars and flat clamshell bonnet enhance visibility from the windshield, while the dipped driver and passenger window lines expand visibility from the side windows. The front grille is simple and black, highlighting the round signature headlamps, with 15-inch dark-metallic alloy wheels* accentuating the strong exterior even more. Other exterior features include the drip rails on the roof edges, which prevent water ingress into the cabin when opening or closing a door, wheel arch extensions and side sill covers protecting the body from stone chips and rear lamps gathered on the bumper to achieve a simplistic design and also contribute to a wider rear door opening. *Availability depends on vehicle configuration Colours Eight body colours, including two new colours developed exclusively for the all-new Jimny: a high-visibility “Kinetic Yellow” designed to stand out in bad weather or rough worksites, and a low-visibility “Jungle Green” which blends in with natural scenery. Heritage design Many design elements were inherited from past legends, creating a familiar yet distinct Jimny look:
Design Straightforward, practical and down-to-earth, every detail is carefully crafted to realise a beautiful yet functional interior. The handsome black interior is without excessive colours or decoration to minimise distraction and lets the driver concentrate on manoeuvring the vehicle. The horizontal lines defined by the instrument panel, and the vertical lines characterised by the meter cluster and centre console panels help the driver recognise the angle of the vehicle in rough and mountainous terrain. Functionality Everything surrounding the driver and front passenger is built for professional use. Crafted for carefree dependability, the instrument panel and surrounding parts have a scratch and stain-resistant grained finish, and the grip and switches are easy to operate so that it can be handled in off-road conditions as well as while wearing gloves. The meters set in cubic housings are always lit up for clear viewing on and off-road, when the vehicle often passes between sunlit and shaded areas. For intuitive operation of the audio system, a Bluetooth®-compatible Smartphone Linkage Display Audio unit with a 7-inch infrared touchscreen is equipped on higher grades. Luggage Space The rear luggage space can be expanded by folding the rear seats, creating a 377 litre*1 luggage space which is 53 litres larger than its predecessor. Flat all the way across, the quarter trims and seats have been carefully designed to increase storage width, and the backs of the rear seats and luggage room floor are coated with plastic*2 for easy dirt/stain removal. Five utility screw holes are available on each side under the quarter windows along with four luggage hook screw holes around the floor area for flexible usage of the luggage space. *1 Measured without luggage box using the German Association of the Automotive Industry (VDA) method. All figures are manufacturer data. *2 Availability depends on vehicle configuration Uncompromising performance Authentic off-roaders must be tough enough to handle the harshest conditions. From its ladder frame structure to its 1.5-litre engine, the all-new Jimny is built for rough-road adventures. But on-road ability was not compromised, with the higher torsional rigidity of the ladder frame providing a more comfortable and solid ride on the road, and newly equipped steering damper on the front suspension minimising steering wheel vibration and kickback. Whether navigating the urban jungle or exploring off the beaten track, the Jimny is sure to satisfy adventurous minds. Off-road capability The Jimny incorporates the four essentials for serious off-roading — a ladder frame, the three angles, 3-link rigid axle suspension with coil spring and part-time 4WD with low range transfer gear. Designed for professionals, it features ALLGRIP PRO*. *ALLGRIP PRO is Suzuki’s 4WD system designed for high off-road ability. The ladder frame structure provides a solid base for suspension components when driving off-road and also helps protect the vehicle body even on bumpy surfaces. For the all-new Jimny, a new “x-member” and two additional cross members have been added for further reinforcement and increased torsional rigidity. The ample approach angle of 37 degrees, ramp breakover angle of 28 degrees and departure angle of 49 degrees allow the Jimny to climb over obstacles and steep hills without scraping its bumpers or underbody. Rigid axle suspensions thrive in bumpy off-road driving. When one tyre is pushed upward by an obstacle, the connected tyre on the other side is pressed downward, giving superior grip on uneven terrain. The Jimny equips the rigid axle suspension on both the front and rear, allowing it to travel even on rough roads. The Jimny features a part-time 4WD system with low range transfer gear, which can be easily switched from 2H (2WD-high gear), 4H (4WD-high gear) and 4L (4WD-low gear) modes by a shift lever directly connected to the transfer gear. Compared to the 4H mode, the 4L mode can transfer more torque to the tyres while in lower gears, for better traction on steep slopes and rough terrain. When two wheels diagonal from each other lose traction, the Jimny’s brake LSD traction control automatically brake the slipping wheels to redistribute torque to the other side and allow the vehicle to gain traction. This system allows the Jimny to escape slippery surfaces as well as bumpy rough roads that vary on the right and left sides. 1.5-litre engine The former 1.3-litre engine is replaced by a 1.5-litre engine in the all-new Jimny. It delivers stronger torque at all rpm than its predecessor, with ample torque at low revolutions enhancing driving performance especially while driving off-road, where low revolution is often needed. Despite the increased displacement, it has smaller overall dimensions than the engine it replaces, with 15% reduced weight, contributing to enhanced fuel efficiency. 5-speed manual transmission and 4-speed automatic transmission The 5-speed manual transmission has optimised gear ratios for the new engine and also offers better fuel efficiency. The shift lever has been redesigned to reduce vibration, and also provides a more solid and direct feeling when changing gears. The 4-speed automatic transmission has also been redesigned to offer less friction and better fuel economy. The shift pattern has been changed from the former gate type to the straight (aligned) type to simplify operation. Safety Suzuki Safety Support is Suzuki’s preventative safety technology that helps the driver avoid accidents and supports the driver to have peace of mind during every day driving. With Dual Sensor Brake Support (DSBS)*, if the system determines that there is a risk of collision with a forward vehicle or pedestrian, it issues an audio and visual warning, increases braking force, or applies strong automatic brakes depending on the situation, in an effort to avoid the collision or reduce damage. Other functions include lane departure warning* and weaving alert function* to help the driver keep alert, and high beam assist* supports relaxing, courteous night driving by automatically switching the high and low beams. *Each function operates in different vehicle speeds and conditions. In the Jimny, traffic sign recognition monitors the road ahead for traffic signs. When it detects road signs such as speed limits or no passing zones, it displays the sign on the meter display to help the driver remember which road signs the car has passed. For additional traffic signs showing supplementary information, a blank box is displayed under the main traffic sign to inform the driver. The Jimny is the first Suzuki model to adopt this system. Other safety technologies:
*2 Total Effective Control Technology https://www.trackssuzuki.co.uk/deale...t-4wd-vehicle/ |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 17:37
#1325
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Para mi, prefiero un LSD antes que un sistema por bloqueo de frenos. |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 17:40
#1326
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Lo siento puretas, pero ese LSD que anuncian no es nada mecánico.
Brake LSD Traction Control If two wheels diagonal from each other lose grip while you’re travelling over slippery surfaces, this feature is designed to automatically brake the slipping wheels and redistribute torque to the other two wheels, allowing the Jimny to make its escape. http://www.globalsuzuki.com/automobi...mny/index.html Además se aprecia en los vídeos que son "microfrenadas" y no una presión constante de unotipo mecánico. Esto puede confundir a muchos. |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 17:44
#1328
| Curioso que la dirección se mantenga de tipo "bolas" cuando el Mercedes G-Klass la perdió para poder equipar los nuevos asistentes de conducción y mantenimiento de carril así como buscar la eficiencia. |
AUTT socio nº 2078
05-jul-2018 18:35
#1330
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Hay que tener en cuenta, que Mercedes cambió el eje rígido delantero, por una suspensión independiente. Seguramente ese cambio, ha motivado el sustituir el sistema de dirección anterior (recirculación de bolas) por otro más adecuado y/o moderno, como el de piñón-cremallera. |
Lalalá
05-jul-2018 18:51
#1331
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Exactamente amigo... la gente se piensa que girando las ruedas magicas hacen la Rubicon sin problemas...
es que toda esta clase de anuncios me ponen de muy mala leche de verdad. llevo una vida trabajando en el sector y jamas he mentido a un cliente... pregunto las necesidades de cada uno y en relación a eso lo oriento a una compra o a otra. los comerciales de toda esta morralla de coches deben estar contando unas milongas importantes  el otro dia mi gerente le regalo a la hija un Juke y la comercial le dijo a mi jefe que con la ruedita pasaba de 4x2 a 4x4.... POR LA CARA. mi jefe como tiene mucha educacion la dio por loca y por estar cobrando un sueldo que no se merecía y no la corregio... en fin, y como esa montones mas. |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 18:56
#1332
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De team-bhp: Launch in Japan - 5th July Germany/Italy/Spain, etc - End 2018 (media) UK - Early 2019 ( media indicates) Australia - 2019 ( reports indicate) India - 2020 (Speculated) |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 20:14
#1334
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De consumos se sabe algo? Tampoco se si el modelo que le precede consume mucho. Estoy planteando comprar el nuevo, pero no se si es lo mejor para hacer 50-60 km diarios de carretera |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 20:14
#1335
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A mí me dijo una comercial de Hyundai que girando la rueda del Tucson (el primero) se conectaba la reductora... y por más que le dije que era bloqueo de diferencial, que este modelo no tenía reductora, que era imposible por tener el motor transversal, no la saqué de ahí, hasta que vino el gerente, claro.
 deberían exigir mas a las personas que trabajan de cara al publico en este sector. saludos. |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 20:29
#1336
| Parece qie tiene un sistema de bloqueo de la rueda que esta en el aire en cruces de puentes como los land rover |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 20:31
#1338
| Me alegro que por fin hagan un 4x4 puro y no un SUV, este con muy poca preparación podrá hacer grandes cosas. |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 21:44
#1339
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Lo siento puretas, pero ese LSD que anuncian no es nada mecánico.
Brake LSD Traction Control If two wheels diagonal from each other lose grip while you’re travelling over slippery surfaces, this feature is designed to automatically brake the slipping wheels and redistribute torque to the other two wheels, allowing the Jimny to make its escape. http://www.globalsuzuki.com/automobi...mny/index.html Además se aprecia en los vídeos que son "microfrenadas" y no una presión constante de unotipo mecánico. |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 22:25
#1340
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Me parece propaganda barata llamar o hacer pasar un Traction Control por un LSD. |
ForoCoches: Primerum
05-jul-2018 22:34
#1342
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Hay varios tipos de LSD , y no lo especifica, y un tipo de control de traccion es el LSD, por lo que no me parece propaganda barata |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 22:47
#1343
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Un traction control es un sistema electrónico que hace lo "mismo" que un LSD. Aunque ambos sistemas hagan el mismo trabajo, deberían llamarlo por su nombre. |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 22:57
#1344
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diferencial de deslizamiento limitado. que obviamente todo se puede controlar con el abs,que a su vez da cabeza al trc(control de traccion). pero al final,es eso.jugan con el abs. si llevase un lsd como el vitara zapatones,supongo que encareceria el sistema,y seria de tontos no aprovechar y jugar con la electronica como ya hacen todos los fabricantes. a si que no se,lo veo solamente como una opcion mas. un saludo! |
ForoCoches: Miembro
05-jul-2018 23:34
#1345
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LSD:
diferencial de deslizamiento limitado. que obviamente todo se puede controlar con el abs,que a su vez da cabeza al trc(control de traccion). pero al final,es eso.jugan con el abs. si llevase un lsd como el vitara zapatones,supongo que encareceria el sistema,y seria de tontos no aprovechar y jugar con la electronica como ya hacen todos los fabricantes. a si que no se,lo veo solamente como una opcion mas. un saludo! Un bloqueo mecánico encarecería el coche. Yo espero que ese LSD de suzuki funcione bien, porque he visto algunos pocos efectivos. |
ForoCoches: Miembro
06-jul-2018 00:22
#1347
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Se saben motores? |
ForoCoches: Miembro
06-jul-2018 07:30
#1350
¿Qué distancia creeis que habrá de largo aproximadamente con el asiento del copiloto tumbado? Es decir del salpicadero a la puerta del maletero.  
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